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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
Weirdest overpopulation denial I’ve ever seen.
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Was going to say something about how this is pretty eugenicist, but then I saw this
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The world would be a better place if Hitler had been 100% successful and eradicated every non-Aryan from the planet (including me).
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Lovely stuff, I must say. Best subforum to get to know you people.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
So the pro lifer argument. Except with a sexist double standard. Interesting.
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No. Literally its antithesis.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
I'm not deciding what happens to her body, I'm deciding what happens to the unborn body. I'm not telling her she can't have a baby, just that she can't have my baby. It's also infringing on my human right to force me into an obligation I never wanted. To completely exclude the man in any decisions on what happens to what could be his child is blatantly sexist over an over simplification of the issue. Having a child is not getting a piercing or a tattoo or a surgery. It doesn't only affect her and her body. It's a very selfish way of looking at it.
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The *fetus* is not a baby. The fetus isn't even a functioning, conscious human -- the fetus has no ethical value, as it has no personhood, and might as well be a parasite. no human rights infringement; what *could be* your child isn't actually your child, insofar as it ain't a child at all.
The denial of a person's right to hold dominion over themselves and make their own choices about their own body, however? That's tantamount to slavery, I'd say.
What you "want", post-pregnancy, is irrelevant to what you did to cause said pregnancy in the first place. Which, in turn, is irrelevant to whether that pregnancy is carried to term or not. Consent to sex is not consent to childbirth.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
I'm not talking about forcing a woman to have a child.
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Huh? So what do you propose is done when the man decides the woman ought to go through with the pregnancy?
Have you not given this any thought beyond the mere repetition of the sort of prattle you've been preaching up 'til now?