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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Why not? We were brought into this world without our consent by a society that has children simply because it's instinctual, and then we're expected to show loyalty to our species and be productive members of society regardless of our own wants and needs. I'd say that any culture that acts in such a way does in fact owe the people it brings into the world for no other reason than because it wants to make more people.
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We do more to harm ourselves and each other than any government ever has (minus some extreme examples). If you don't want to be a participating member of society, than work to create a society you'd like to participate in or gtfo. I'm not saying the government shouldn't give a **** about people and offer social safety nets, I'm saying it's pretty obvious that their are limitations on what it can do and approaching life with the attitude that they owe you is awful. That mentality puts major strain on what it can offer because it helps create an atmosphere of people who think they can just repeatedly **** up and be bailed out by the government, it's just not realistic.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
So human psychology needs to change? You think that's reasonable? Our psyches have been developed over millions of years and no amount of bootstrap logic is going to change how the human race functions. Certain individuals might be able to pull themselves up but human history has shown for thousands of years that the natural state of most societies is poverty.
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Yes. Modern social systems and the ways we think and interact are significantly different than they have been in the very recent past. Do you think it's reasonable to hold the position, "o well, we've done enough, let's just stop trying to improve"? What are you, anti-everyonegetsatrophy until the game is life? I'm not expecting it to happen over night, but all you have to do is look at the history of black america to understand that we can improve on the human condition. Better yet look at the influence of social media and the internet on the human psyche. People need to put in more work and educate themselves. There are a multitude of things that can be fixed without relying on the government, and I'm not going to sit here and blame big brother because people are unwilling to make a personal effort to fix them.