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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls
Why do you think it's important for people to show respect to people they don't respect? I think that's a terrible way to live.
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^ I guess my reasoning is this; being a soldier is a horrible job that can involve risking your life, but when you sign up to be a soldier you accept that you will follow orders. In ways difficult to measure, in Britain and the US, we enjoy the benefits of having a standing army, even if it's only for when they are flying in hurricane relief supplies. Because it's a hard, lousy dangerous job, I'm prepared to accord them some respect even if they've been sent to fight in a war of dubious morality.
I'm surprised that Trump doesn't appreciate his armed forces more: it's a very unusual leader who denigrates the people who, in the worst of cases, would die to defend the country he leads.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
The bombing missions were straight up mass murder. Dead is dead. McCain is a war criminal and it’s too bad he won’t be executed for his crimes before he dies. Dodging the draft was heroic. If everyone had done it this horrible massacre wouldn’t have happened. I spit on the grave of every American piece of **** that died over there. ****ing worthless cowards. **** all of them.
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^ Carpet bombing of cities could be described as mass murder - strategic bombing of bridges and arms depots, not so much.
Completely failing to understand McCain's role at My Lai. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Anteater
Lisna, the whole reason I shared that Tokyo Rose vid was to illustrate that McCain embellished his time as a POW. It throws that whole narrative you cited on Wikipedia into question. What he told officials in government privately and the story that was sold to the American people don't completely line up. As far as I'm concerned, he and the government puffed up the story to distract from his war crimes + the fact he likely sang like a bird to his captors before any torture was actually done to him (assuming we take his own account at face value, which I don't).
Trump is fundamentally right about him even if you don't align with that sentiment.
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^ Well, thank you for that explanation Anteater.