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Old 03-23-2018, 09:04 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic View Post
^ Actually, I'm pretty sure you can use either for words that refer to a single group with members that can be considered as individuals too:-
My family is/are crazy. The herd has/have moved on. The team is/are playing well.
There's what you can do and there's what's right. Treating a single entity as plural is nonsensical to me.

"The Ramones are some of my favourite bands."

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Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
Yeah, yeah. So you got me.
To be fair, I think that it's perfectly acceptable to start a sentence with a conjunction. That's just one of those archaic hierarchical grammar rules that can be skirted while still coherently conveying meaning.

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More or less what I said, and yes, it does confuse me. Do you say "the American people are mad for voting in Trump" or "The American people is made for voting in Trump"? Either way, they're mad.
Bad example. People is a plural noun, not a collective noun like public or band. You would say the American people are mad for voting for Trump. You could also say that the American public is mad for voting for Trump for an example that's closer to what I'm talking about.
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