Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord
I don't support troops, I support people not suffering. A Vietnam vet who thinks their war meant something is a fool, but if they got shot, watched a friend get shot, or experienced any of the things that can traumatize a human being in a war zone then I feel empathy for that, and that is one of the things that makes me not support war. Their presence in Vietnam may have been a crime to the people of that country engaged in a civil war that should never have involved any foreign nations, but that doesn't make an injured American's excruciating physical and emotional pain any less horrible.
Women who wear mini skirts for a night out and get raped don't deserve that suffering, and soldiers who go to war for idiotic patriotism and wake up screaming when they come home don't deserve that kind of visceral misery. Nothing can make you deserve that unless you were in the ****ing Waffen SS shooting Russian children in the head on your way to Stalingrad. There's simply no way to understand what any of that is until you're in it and to throw veterans under the bus simply because they were naive idiots undermines the very purpose of hating war because you just don't care about what happens to people.
|

One of the most human posts you've ever made. Didn't think you had it in you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord
It's not about who's worse, it's about who knew full well what they were perpetrating and who was just an ignoramus who had no real understanding.
|
Not to mention that those who initiate and perpetuate the wars are the ones who don't go to fight in them, nor their children.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk
I’m not going to show any compassion for veterans because I think every thing about war needs to be stigmatized. I stand with those who spit on them when they returned. The spitters were the heros. Hopefully someday there’s so much spit no one joins the next one.
|
I hope someday a veteran punches out your lights. That's ****ing disgusting. It's easy to stand on the sidelines and moan. You actually disgust me. Well, your attitude does. I'm going to assume none of your family or friends fought, got wounded in or died in any war.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chula Vista
Man oh man oh man......
Frowny and Hawk, how do you feel about America's aggressive involvement in WWII?
Germany, Italy, and Russia were in the process of taking over Europe and Japan had just bombed the United States.
How do you feel about WWII veterans? Should they have been spat upon?
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chula Vista
Oops. Forget Russia, I'm mixing up wars.
Same question though.
|
You're not actually. Russia originally signed the pact with Hitler and was technically part of the Axis powers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiomara
^ I for one would hang out with Chula if he became a full time RV Vagabond Dad and passed through Texas.
Finally almost done packing; I keep coming across ancient cookie tins, and each time I open one I have to brace myself for the worst (as they say, you never know when you're gonna open up a cookie tin and find a putrid smelling assortment of Appalachian hoodoo herbs instead). Let's see what's inside today's mystery tin...
Was wondering where that CD went. And of course there's gargoyles. Of course. #justchiothingz (there's also one of those sparkly press on tattoo things in there)
|
Those gargoyles are so cool! Especially the one with the orange wings.