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~~MicShazam~~ · 11-14-2017, 07:59 PM

I dropped into this thread to see what the music was all about and then... all this talk about hating society and sexual objectification...

It did make me think about my own behaviour. Actually, not long ago, Batty called me a creepy perv. I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but it probably also alluded to the fact that I'm a fan of some pretty risque comic books (see Milo Manara). I don't actually see myself as neither "creepy" nor a perv, but I do have a pretty liberated view of sexuality and nudity. Honestly, to my Danish mind, American attitudes about nudity are ****ing weird. In a way, there's maybe a sort of duality to my appreciation of women - but I'd argue that it's in a purely healthy, respectful manner. As should be clear by now, I've got a record collection that's well over 50% female. Female singers, female songwriters, female musicians. There's no question that I respect the artistry of women. But at the same time, there's the aforementioned "dirty" comics, plus the fact that right there on my bookshelf, in plain sight, I've got several big collections of erotic photography. It's just one of the many things I geek out about. I imagine that many Americans would see that as pervy, but most Europeans wouldn't. Women's bodies are beautiful.

Not that I think anyone here is arguing that it's a zero sum game: Either don't talk about women's looks, or be considered sexist. No one is saying that, I know. I'm just trying to place myself somewhere on a spectrum of what's being talked about here.

I'd also say that I'm respectful towards all the women that I meet in life. I'll talk to women about any sort of subject, just like I would with a man. I'm not trying to hit on every pretty face that I meet and I don't often comment on the looks on women online either - not unless it's the obvious thing to do, given the context.

Which brings me to the "Marry Snog or Avoid" thread that Trollheart brought up. I'm a pretty frequent poster in there and I don't see anything wrong with that. It's harmless.

Then there was that weird discussion between Batlord and Occulthawk about alienation and not caring about other people... All that makes me think of is how I (fortunately) don't seem to have any choice but to care. I care immensely about other people. It's just who I am. I cried when I heard of the Utoya island massacre back in 2011, even though I know no one connected to it, or even anyone who comes from Norway. I just can't relate to the idea of not caring about people. Of course there are *******s, but I refuse to throw out all of my good will just because of that.

Sorry about the ramble. Weird threads beget weird comments.

11-14-2017, 07:59 PM	#57 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I dropped into this thread to see what the music was all about and then... all this talk about hating society and sexual objectification... It did make me think about my own behaviour. Actually, not long ago, Batty called me a creepy perv. I'm pretty sure it was a joke, but it probably also alluded to the fact that I'm a fan of some pretty risque comic books (see Milo Manara). I don't actually see myself as neither "creepy" nor a perv, but I do have a pretty liberated view of sexuality and nudity. Honestly, to my Danish mind, American attitudes about nudity are ***ing weird. In a way, there's maybe a sort of duality to my appreciation of women - but I'd argue that it's in a purely healthy, respectful manner. As should be clear by now, I've got a record collection that's well* over 50% female. Female singers, female songwriters, female musicians. There's no question that I respect the artistry of women. But at the same time, there's the aforementioned "dirty" comics, plus the fact that right there on my bookshelf, in plain sight, I've got several big collections of erotic photography. It's just one of the many things I geek out about. I imagine that many Americans would see that as pervy, but most Europeans wouldn't. Women's bodies are beautiful. Not that I think anyone here is arguing that it's a zero sum game: Either don't talk about women's looks, or be considered sexist. No one is saying that, I know. I'm just trying to place myself somewhere on a spectrum of what's being talked about here. I'd also say that I'm respectful towards all the women that I meet in life. I'll talk to women about any sort of subject, just like I would with a man. I'm not trying to hit on every pretty face that I meet and I don't often comment on the looks on women online either - not unless it's the obvious thing to do, given the context. Which brings me to the "Marry Snog or Avoid" thread that Trollheart brought up. I'm a pretty frequent poster in there and I don't see anything wrong with that. It's harmless. Then there was that weird discussion between Batlord and Occulthawk about alienation and not caring about other people... All that makes me think of is how I (fortunately) don't seem to have any choice but to care. I care immensely about other people. It's just who I am. I cried when I heard of the Utoya island massacre back in 2011, even though I know no one connected to it, or even anyone who comes from Norway. I just can't relate to the idea of not caring about people. Of course there are *******s, but I refuse to throw out all of my good will just because of that. Sorry about the ramble. Weird threads beget weird comments.