Originally Posted by MikeDesmondsDeadHorse

Babs Uvala Who is a great punk song. They surely came out of a punk scene with punk ethos, they toured relentlessly and came from the bottom. They made it big. They're records are heavily produced. Depends on your definition. Personally I don't see punk as a genre as much as a mindset. It's not punk to conform which I don't think Green Day ever did or tried to do.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm not even mad. Seriously I'm not. You're a good dude, and I think and hope you'll become something good