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Originally Posted by djchameleon
Nope that's not what I'm saying. I'm referring to examples you made earlier to certain statues and holiday changes.
Yes, I get that there are some SJWs that are extreme *******s and I agree with most of what you said there but I honestly dont get that part at the end where you feel like you can tell they are only doing for some kind of hero complex but don't really care. It's like you are trying to be a mind reader and saying they don't really care based off of some arbitrary criteria that you come up with. Also, I don't feel like you were attacking me until you mentioned me specifically about the gender conversation.
I wasn't persuading but trying to give you some information about it to help you better understand but obviously the two ladies did a better job. Also you are still caught up on that attack helicopter joke? Most people that are on the anti PC side don't really care about being educated and getting more info. They just stick to their opinion and toss off slippery slope examples that make completely no sense. It is the same like when people that are against same sex marriage saying whats next being able to marry your dog? They just minimize people's experience because they don't understand it and don't want to understand it. You definitely came off like one of those types when you first started the gender conversation. Being super defensive of your way of thinking and not being open to the other side much.
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Tell me why a statue or a holiday change means anything that isn't superficial.
You can tell. By their actions. I pointed it out. They are the ones to talk the most **** and rally behind fake causes. It's all for ego. It's all for perception. That's not mind reading that's just common sense. It's obvious. Something we both know people do in every culture. Act fake as ****. Kind of weird that I don't remember you saying any of this in my record yourself giving to the less fortunate thread.
You weren't trying to persuade me, but were trying to give me information to better understand? I'm sorry, I must have been full of ****. You were not trying to persuade me, you were just giving information so I'd better understand. Cause that in no way is persuading. But the ironic thing about that is, you literally gave me zero information. If I remember right, you told me just to identify people as what they want because it's rude not to. That is not giving me information, it's not meant to help me understand, it's trying to tell me, or persuade me, to do something. And you don't see the irony in saying that the others don't care about understanding things and try to minimize people's experience? As people actively try to minimize my experience with out giving a damn about understanding me when I say ejaculating in somebody's mouth during consensual sex is not rape? Or that I have a hard time identifying somebody's gender if it contradicts their sex? Or that I think racism towards whites matters just as much as racism towards minorities? Or that race relations and problems vary in different locations? There are various things that I get completely dismissed or heckled for saying with out anybody caring to understand or hear me out. Like Bulbasaur telling me I'm just trying to play victim and just want attention or something when I speak my mind. Or elph going off and saying that reverse racism is something made up by whiny white dudes. Or you saying I'm just looking for reasons to complain about liberals. Trying to invalidate what I have to say because it contradicts what you believe. So it's not just anti PC people that do it. And if you really think somebody is a lost cause or complete brick wall, then you're better off not interacting with them at all. The reason I typically try to avoid these threads personally. I'm obviously not good at that though.
Edit: Despite calling specific people out, I do have to say that at least these discussions are a lot more civil here than they are on my main forum. It's devolved to death threats, thread spamming and personal insults on almost every other thread.