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Originally Posted by Frownland
Nah it wouldn't be avant garde in that instance. It'd be demoted to experimental music, at least based on the way I separate the two terms.
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Avant-garde is kind of a difficult criteria to fulfill. Being ahead of everything else and truly pushing at the boundaries of what music even is. At this point, noise, disharmony, lack of structure, sampling, etc... it's all accepted - whether liked or not - as valid means of music production. Avant-garde took the battle, but now most battles are perhaps won.
Experimental is maybe just everything that used to be avant-garde, but is still weird enough that most don't bother listening to it. You can still play around with serialism in 2017 and get weird looks from most people, but it can't be called avant-garde by a long shot.
So avant-garde really has to be something boundary pushing and new, while experimental just needs to play around with the least popular/least understood musical approaches, so to speak.
Not sure if that's even close to how you see it?