Originally Posted by Anteater

But I know they never will improve, so there you go. Why? Because they will never be efficient and don't really want to be. Too many agendas above our heads that the American people can't compete with. And I did talk (albeit briefly) about how ideals don't match reality in regards to social security systems.

Real change will only occur if you can get money out of politics. That won't happen under a Democratic or Republican administration. You need something resembling the Libertarian ideal to be embraced by the mainstream voter.

Originally Posted by Anteater

Or, you know, you could try a counter argument. Or something with substance. Maybe I'm asking a bit much?