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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Besides a few drive-bys I can only think of three black members of this site: you, Roxy, and Soulflower. We never drove you off, so that's two black members you're talking about. Hardly a pattern.
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It's okay if you don't notice the other black members that have been around over the years. Closer is another one that's left and one of my current friends that I talk to used to post here. I only found out later on after we became friends and she really hates this place. So maybe it's only a black women thing or as you all would like to call it a coincidence.
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan
Well maybe cause you want to see it as that way, but that not the case. I know at least one example of someone who left who was African-American but left for his own reason, college or something. He wasn't run off as crazy. So you can't say "all."
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Sure, of course blanket statements in one direction or the next isn't great and sure there is an exception to every situation but you can't deny that there is a pattern here.
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan
It had nothing to do with her being in a "token category." She's on the internet. No one really knows what she looks like.They are more than likely to judge her by her personality, how she handle herself, what topics she brought up, not what she looks like. I was tempted to think she was some crazy white kid master-trolling, causing raucous by writing off white people carte blanche as racist. I am still a little bit surprised she turned out to be actually African-American. Is this true?  |
It is true that she's black. I've seen a picture of her and even if I hadn't, it is clearly obvious that she was based off of the topics she posted in and about. You didn't need to see a picture of her to know she was black.
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Originally Posted by Ki
Dj is just playing off the "I'm black" card. He doesn't actually like Soulflower.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
Nah, but systematic racism is proven to exist. Just look at the statistics of how likely black people are convicted of crimes they are accused of compared to white people. Or how they tend to get harsher sentences for the same crimes.
Also, men are more likely to get harsher sentences than women. Also, ugly people are more likely to get harsher sentences than beautiful people. (Explains why I always get such light sentences)
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Also those studies they have done about employers are more likely to hire someone with a white sounding name as opposed to a black sounding name.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
I don't support affirmative action though. A) It's unfair. I personally don't give a damn because I understand why it exists, but at the same time it implies that not every man is created equal. B) The biggest reason I don't support it is because it doesn't work. If black people are not even graduating high school how are they going to get to college? C) Is that there are more levels to the problem than just race. A middle class black dude is much more likely to take advantage of these laws to get a better education or job. It's lower class black people in the ghettos that need the help and affirmative action isn't doing it. To help those communities you need to put more money into those communities by creating better jobs or better schools. Lupe Fiasco said that when he was principal of his old high school for a day the only school board discussion they had was to include a third meal because kids didn't go there to learn they went there to eat. You can't expect too many people living in that kind of environment to do or be anything other than another product of that environment. Now, that's no excuse to not try, but statistics show that your environment shapes everything that you do.
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Affirmative action is exactly for that bolded part. It isn't around to give lower class black people help/a chance. If they ain't about s
hit they won't be about s
hit. Maybe they aren't even college material, they aren't looking to go onto four more years of school. They are barely making it out of high school or being forced to drop out because of their environment.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
Also, as annoying as black people that make everything into a race issue are, white people that whine about "our government not doing anything for straight white males in America" are much much much much much much worse. Shut the **** up. Straight white males have always ran and still do run this country. They have all the power. Quit crying. Some spoiled ass tantrum ****.
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I agree with this. I also acknowledge the fact that everything isn't a race issue but some things that try to get brushed off ARE race issues.
Don't you know straight white males are being victimized in today's society? They need to be protected because they are losing their power and they are scared. Talk to Goofle, he will hand you a pamphlet of information about this and get you informed sir.