Chula Vista

^^^^^^

With all due respect Xurtio, I hate this sort of psycho-babble that inevitably shows up in every thread on this subject. Show me a jerk of an adult and I'll see a child who's parents thought it was OK if little Billy had a screaming fit in the store if mommy wouldn't buy him the toy he wanted. Or was allowed to throw a fit at home because he's only expressing himself. Or would hit or bite other kids in kindergarten and the parents would calmly tell him that he did a bad thing.

Kids will push the limits to see just how far they can get away with stuff with their parents. IMO and experience a line has to be drawn that if stepped over results in a few stinging swats on the behind. I'm talking about extreme bad stuff.

If either of my kids started freaking out in a store, restaurant, etc. they'd be taken by the arm firmly enough to hurt a little to get their attention, stared straight in the eye, and be told to STOP IT NOW. It did not take very long at all for them to figure out that they should not act like that in public.

Anyone willing to label that as cruelty?

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