Originally Posted by elphenor

last post wasn't really responding to you but:

musically they lack what the real difference between a rock band and a punk band is

dissonance or noise

you get these things not because you play power chord riffs but because your production is lofi and your equipment is cheap and your singer can't sing on key and nobody has a real sense of keeping time nor could they give a **** about it

at the same time it's separate from say de facto exp music as punk bands have always embraced pop hooks and verse chorus verse chorus

I've heard the comparison to Buzzcocks but Buzzcocks are like other 70's punk bands but with prettier guitar tones sort of pre-dating shoegaze nothing like 90's "pop punk"

Originally Posted by Neward Thelman

"SMOKE CRACK MUDA****KKA"

I'll check that dictionary, but in the meantime I'm impressed - as is everyone else in the world - by your eloquence, obvious accomplishments and success, and the evidence of your blazingly high intelligence.

Originally Posted by Frownland

He just doesn't have a mind so closed that it rivals Blockbuster.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I own the mail