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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Then the Specials are art punk? What about all the other Two-Tone bands? Oh yeah, and I thought everybody ELSE already agreed that art punk is a stupid, fake genre.
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You just completely missed the point. Clash were taking odd, new turns by including various "outsider" genres that have little to do with punk, such as rockabilly or ska. Reggae was an oddity. London Calling was very diverse and did not always fit the stereotypical punk bill. Even in '79, punk was still being formed and so were the subgenres. Experimenting with the punk sound by including various genres, even Jamaican ones, sounds like art punk to me.
You somehow took this to mean ska and 2 tone are art punk? First of all, ska's been around since the 50's. Plus, 2 tone is a subgenre of ska that takes a little bit of influence from things like punk, not enough to call it a subgenre of punk. Claiming someone said Specials are art punk isn't a fair argument, let alone well constructed.