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Originally Posted by elphenor
I'm just annoyed because there's this huge amount of punk and someone who hasn't listened to any of it wants to tell me the genre is all power chords and leather jackets
It's treating punk like classic rock
People don't realize that "post punk" is a revisionist term and bands like Suicide actually existed alongside Ramones and the such in the NY scene
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Punk was a term created by the music press to refer to a bunch of bands that were just one step on the art rock ladder. If it wasn't for the London scene that blew the whole thing so far out of proportion we might not call punk anything. It would just be the arty rock bands from the mid/late seventies.
I've gone back and forth on what is and what isn't punk, but I think the only thing that makes sense is to apply it to what it was made to be applied to: the Sex Pistols and their contemporaries, and all the bands who jacked their sound like the fad that the punk scene was. Whether that means Television and Wire get called punk too is debatable, but it doesn't really matter anyway.
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Originally Posted by elphenor
In fact legend has it that suicide was the first group to refer to themselves as punks
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Suicide came around before even the Ramones or Television, so you could them proto-punk, art rock, or probably more terms that would be more relevant than punk.