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Originally Posted by EPOCH6
The relationship between lunar eclipses and the shape of the Earth that I was trying to point out is that when Earth's shadow is cast upon the moon it reveals the globular shape of the Earth. That was one of the observations that led Aristotle to believe that the Earth is a globe. Flat Earthers don't believe that the sun ever passes behind the Earth... which begs the question how can lunar eclipses occur if the Earth is a non-rotating flat disc and the sun never orbits behind it?
Not sure if you're trying to make a subtle stab at non-Flat Earthers here or not but I don't believe I've ever heard a modern astronomer claim that stars are infinitely burning balls of fire, unless they were speaking poetically or metaphorically. Stars are formed and die over time like anything else in the cosmos.
The connection I was trying to make is that if all of the celestial bodies that we observe with our telescopes from Earth are globular why would Earth be excluded from the laws of physics that formed those spherical bodies? Earth is not very far from our globular neighbors in this solar system, we can even observe Saturn and its rings from a retail purchased telescope, let alone much closer planets like Mars, Venus, Mercury, and of course our Moon. At what point do the laws of physics that made our neighbors travelling globes transition into the laws that Flat Earthers believe made Earth a fixed disc, the edge of Earth's atmosphere?
Don't have time to address the other points right now.
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"how can lunar eclipses occur if the Earth is a non-rotating flat disc and the sun never orbits behind it?" I lean toward the idea that the moon is self-luminous, and is part of an intelligently designed clock. Some Geocentrists believe there is a third body up there, which somehow blocks sections of the moon. I don't care much for that idea, though I don't call it impossible.
"Infinitely burning balls of fire" Valid call-out. Sometimes I make quips about things I now think are ridiculous, and they are not necessarily textbook descriptions. My bad. I guess you could look at it as a bit of a poetic description, in that it's a bit sarcastic, and relative to the history of humanity goes, they are infinite. They don't burn out or vanish. We are told they do, but we never see it happen.
"At what point do the laws of physics that made our neighbors travelling globes transition into the laws that Flat Earthers believe made Earth a fixed disc, the edge of Earth's atmosphere?" There is much speculation the Geocentric community about the sky in general. Much controversy. Keeping in mind of course that figuring out the sky doesn't actually have anything to do with debunking the Globe or proving the Flat Earth (because we can do from land), all I can say is that Flat Earthers don't believe they are spheres. The Sun, Moon, and Saturn might be spheres (to me, so far) but there is enough reason for doubt, and it's not my foci.