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Old 05-23-2016, 04:17 PM   #231 (permalink)
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I call bull****. The Christian god is supposed to be all-powerful and all-knowing. So logically, nothing has ever happened, is happening, or will ever happen without God's knowledge and consent. If God couldn't stop it, he wouldn't be all-powerful. If he didn't know about it, he wouldn't be all-knowing.

So, with that in mind, everything you do throughout your life, and everything that makes you who you are (from your personality to your shoe size) was decided before you were ever born. The same would apply to everything to everything from the trajectory and speed of every bouncing ball, to the actions of every human being ever created.

With all of that in mind, since God created everything about you and the world that you would interact with, with complete knowledge of how history would play out, the idea of free will becomes nonsense. It's impossible to deviate in even the slightest way from the plan and vision of a being who is all-powerful and all-knowing, and since God created literally everything, he necessarily did so in a calculated way that decided your future without your being able to do anything about it. You can't even scratch your ass if it isn't a part of God's "plan".

Therefore, every horror perpetrated by man was dictated by God, and we are simply his puppet automatons. Whether or not he physically pressed the button to release the gas to kill the Jews in the showers of Auschwitz, the responsibility is his alone, since his creations are not capable of being responsible for anything whatsoever under any circumstances.
God knew you were going to say that, so God created a universe where human beings could have free will, because that scenario is the kind of world that doesn't make logical sense. A Benevolent God wouldn't force automatons to act malevolently. That defies logic.

You weren't the first person to say that stuff, you're are using your free will to reiterate something someone has said before, albeit in your own words. You could had choose believe that person, or you could have had use your brain to see the flaws in his or her argument before you concur with it on your own volition. You chosen the former.
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Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.

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