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Originally Posted by The Batlord
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your entire argument, just your "Muslim countries should take in the Syrian refugees" one. Your own source revealed that one of those countries, which you specifically cited, may actually an undesirable place for them to emigrate. The fact that your own source kind of disproved your Turkish argument reveals you to be (understandably) ignorant of the facts of the region, and for all we know there could be different reasons why even a religiously conservative Muslim wouldn't be welcome in Saudi Arabia or Iran.
All I'm saying is that if you don't know what's actually going on, then maybe you shouldn't be putting forth a solution.
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well my most basic position is that it is irresponsible to import a lot of people into a country without any regard for the demographics or the cultures involved
so as such i started my argument with the question of why don't muslim countries take the refugees because it seems as if there is a foregone conclusion that someone has to take them. so i was saying if anyone is going to do so, the first in line should be those who are closest to the syrians culturally and geographically.
i was ignorant of the fact that the turks had taken in such a large amount, though i was not ignorant of the reasons why massive amounts of refugees will cause problems. my prediction was that ethnic and cultural differences will be the source of the tension. this was true in turkey. so the situation in turkey basically played out the way i said it would in europe, for the very reason that i said it would in europe. in fact believe i made the point early on that saudi arabia and turkey would be smart for not taking in the refugees, when i was arguing with frownland. so the article did not "disprove the turkish argument" it just put it to the test.
now, you point out that the turks are being hostile so maybe turkey is an even worse place. i would say that since they took 1.7 million and nobody else has, that's a faulty conclusion. pushing that many refugees on any country is going to cause problems.
you're right when you say i shouldn't demand the middle eastern countries take in the refugees. i'll take that back... i think i only said that in a one off post, but i was mostly using that part of my argument to point out the absurdity of importing these people to western countries instead - if their own neighbors won't even take them then why would we?
that's not to say the solution is that the muslim world should take the refugees... maybe they don't have to. maybe the refugees have nowhere to go and should go back to syria. at the end of the day, nobody knows everything about the situation. so following your logic nobody should be proposing any solutions.
also note that the reason there is a tension in turkey is because the refugees are arab. a fact that i did overlook when i said turkey... which is not arab. so that was my mistake in mentioning turkey. but it only adds to my point of the importance of cultural solidarity in a society.