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Old 10-07-2015, 04:26 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Apollonia View Post
Dude you generalise punks way too much. It's split off into so many different subgenres since it's inception that such blanket statements are entirely inaccurate.
True. I do too TBH. Much of my criticism is against early 70s punks -- or at least the British 2nd wavers from 77-78 who immediately followed the arty punks who would largely go on to make post-punk and sneer at the 2nd wavers -- and their missing the point of what made their forebears unique and interesting, instead opting to treat shallow rebellion and bad fashion as what punk was all about.

Also the early 80s hardcore kids, who would even further miss the point of the first scenes in London, New York, Cleveland, etc, to form cliques of gang-like hooligans bent on breaking whatever they felt like for no apparent reason and claim political beliefs that they barely understood, again treating punk as a fashion statement.

And now the high school morons who are more or less clones of the above two groups. Subcultures are by and large for kids who are just looking for a cookie cutter pseudo-personality to make up for their own lack of a sense of self. I did the same with 80s metal (to an extent, as I knew absolutely no one who listened to the same music who I could emulate) but by the time I was in my early twenties I'd discarded such silly notions, as did any punk with common sense.
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