Gotta go with Slipknot here. Call them crap, whatever you feel the need to label them. But I like there music and can say I've spent money to see them live, f*cking great live band even if you think their music is sh*t, can't deny stage presence and people that know how to put on a show.
I don't mind Manson. I liked his newest album more than some of his older ones. But he gets bland and he's also getting really repetitive too. He doesn't possess that same edge he had before, it's dull. At least Slipknot can keep things somewhat interesting still.
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