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Originally Posted by Trollheart
I agree and I think a lot of it has to do with the eternal "That's too loud/That's not loud enough" argument that goes on between the generations. As each new generation comes up, their music is, it seems, more aggressive and louder than that of their parents. Jazz gave way to rock, rock to metal and punk, metal and punk to hip-hop to a degree, and so on. Now, those of us that are considered (ahem) older think much of today's music is too loud, formless and ideally at this time soulless, while those who are younger think that what we listen to is boring, old and irrelevant. And so, I expect, it will always be.
There's also the, as you put it, tribal aspect, where it's considered "uncool" to listen to "old" music, and as everyone wants to be accepted, you get the herd mentality often in music appreciation, where I swear a large percentage of those who listen to today's music (sorry) do so more because it's the thing to do, the thing that makes you acceptable, rather than something they actively enjoy.
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Hmmm, I think if you were in high school during that 30 year period of music from the 70's to 90's, than attitude and heaviness were definitely the generation gap back than, but I think things have changed...
I think the generation gap today is production slickness, as a lot of modern pop music sounds so overproduced it makes me feel nauseous, like if I just ate too much cherry cheese cake, and the underground, which usually pits itself against the mainstream reflects this.
Here's a good example of a band Frownland posted a while back.
I've run across a few bands like this now, and if I grew up in a world where soulless pop & R&B dominated the mainstream, I'd try to find a way to butcher it to.
Now I can digest anything that is heavy (grindcore ect), but this is harder because its more abstract, like Skinny Puppy or Frank Zappa, and at my age I'm not about to replay it ten times in a row until I learn to appreciate it lol. So generation gap.
I think Ninetales also brings up a good point. The amount of young kids that tell me that the music back in the 70's (Pink Floyd, Beatles, Sabbath) is way better than the music today astonishes me.
That being said, I take your point on the tribalism, I can't think of any person over 30 that would want to hang out with pea brain 21 year olds.
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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism
I hope I don't get to that point where I stop seeking out new music from new bands or artists. Honestly I cannot fathom that version of myself ever coming to be. William seemed to think the same thing, but he's reached that point. I do recall at a Machine Head concert I went to a few months back, I found myself annoyed with those loud, obnoxious people that wanted to be in your face ALL THE DAMN TIME, no sense of respect at all, not to mention they boozed up, some of which were easily 30 or older, me being 28 at the time.
In some ways I might already be morphing in to the type of person William and Wolf described, I could stand to not want to tolerate morons at concerts at the very least, but not giving up seeking out new music to listen to, even if the generation younger than my own is the audience.
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It happens, give it 10 more years and you will be there
