^ I thought about that, but their opinions on indie are a little too strong. I agree with you, indie is sort of defined by its lack of definition if you will, a variety of interpretations of what it was, what it is, and what it should be. Both have great taste in music, but I never approached urban about it, because he seems like the type that wouldn't bother with this (some of the really obvious people to do these things never returned my PMs, so

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