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Old 06-28-2015, 07:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How about a motorcycle race between Black Canary and Ghost Rider?
Black Canary uses a concentrated sonic scream to give Ghost Rider a flat tire, causing him to wipe out. He spends the next six months in traction.

Black Canary FTW.

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Two here for you:

Two of the biggest heroes that don't actually have superpowers-

Batman V Captain America
What are you talking about? Captain America does have superpowers. Super soldier serum? Hello?

Anyway, tradition would of course give the impression that Batman was the better fighter (and considering his training, he probably does edge Cap out), but they're both too ninja to call it on just skill alone. That's where Cap's enhanced strength would give him the win in a straight-up fist fight. Batman has taken on enemies with super strength before, but the supers in his rogue's gallery all have to sacrifice speed to some extent, whereas Cap still moves like a normal human, so any mention of Batman being able to beat Bane or Croc is irrelevant.

Cap gets the shaft in general because he's covered in an American flag, but in many ways, he specializes in the same things that Batman does: fighting technique, tactics and strategy, and just being in general the most competent and tenacious hero in his universe. So, it's harder to give Batman an edge when they're so much alike.

Bats does, however, have all those damn gadgets, whereas Cap "just" has his shield. It's a pretty bitchin' shield, but it doesn't quite measure up to grappling hooks, Batarangs, ninja paraphernalia, remote controlled super-car, remote controlled super-plane, remote controlled super-boat, etc. So that's one big point in his favor, though I highly doubt Cap would be one to let a little thing like a Batarang to the face bother him. Besides, they may not be his gadgets, but Cap does work for SHIELD, so...

It's also tradition that with enough preparation, Batman can beat anybody. But Cap is likewise a master tactician, and doesn't have any real weaknesses to exploit. And any tactic that would apply against him, would probably also be just as usable against Batman, which I'm sure Cap would recognize.

I'm trying to think of ways that Batman could use to beat Captain America, but I'm coming up short, so unless anybody has any other ideas...

... Captain America FTW?

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and this pairing-

Juggernaut v Rhino
How is this even a question? Juggernaut, duh. Juggernaut is even stronger and more invulnerable. Not to mention that all it takes to beat Rhino is one Spider-Man, as opposed to all the X-Men.

Juggernaut FTW.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis View Post
lol i thought you would say that but you're not giving the Martian hunter a fighting chance! if anybody with some kind of fire power can easily take him, why is he compared so much to Superman and Batman?

those guys are not easy to beat despite their weaknesses..
Superman's weakness is an ultra-rare rock and Batman's weakness (being human) is something he has trained to account for since he was a child. Martian Manhunter could potentially be menaced by a stove.

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Ok, how bout Dr Fate Vs Dr strange?
I have no idea what the difference is in their magical abilities, or the difference in their power levels. It's incredibly hard to compare magical beings, since magic is in many ways an unquantifiable ability.

I'll give it to Dr. Fate, just cause one of the Dr. Fates was a DBZ-like fusion of a woman and her ten-year-old, magically aged stepson, who she was in love with, and Dr. Strange would probably be too busy vomiting to fight.

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Ok, how about Green Arrow versus Hawkeye.
Honestly, I think Hawkeye is too big a ripoff of Green Arrow for there to be any difference. They both "never miss", they both use trick arrows... alright I can't think up a third thing that they do, but you get my point.

If we're talking Green Arrow from the Arrow TV show, though, then GA hands down, as he's basically Batman with a bow and arrow.

P.S. BTW, if we're just talking comics, then I'd be totally rooting for Hawkeye, cause his current series with Matt Fraction is just insanely good.
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