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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
there are a few things to address here
first, my basic question was why shouldn't i be addressing my own interests when i vote. it seems like that is a pretty straight forward approach to democracy to me... even if we don't have a 'pure democracy'... at the end of the day, the whole point of having the vote distributed throughout the populace vs decided by a few good men is to ensure that these interests are represented. so it seems flat out weird to me to hear you say my interests aren't what i should be considering... instead every individual is supposed to engineer the ideal society in their own head and vote along those lines? so we're falling back on the collective wisdom of the masses? but that's not a tyranny of the majority right...
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I think the point of democracy is not that it takes into account everybody acting in their own self interest, but that it takes into account everybody acting according to their own worldview. Of course, as I mention in my first post, I guess I don't believe in an absolutely unfettered democracy because I think we can, should, and do put safeguards in place against tyranny of the majority - and, again, I think considering the interests of people besides yourself helps solve tyranny of the majority.
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but i don't take issue with the idea that "you should care about other people" etc etc. i do care. i throw a dollar in the salvation army guy's bucket. i don't take the time to vote cause i really don't see it as being as productive as you do. just to sort of passively stave off the elite a little bit... and meanwhile i hear poor people deluded into thinking obama is making them poor on a daily basis. nah, really i feel like sometimes it takes a fire to clear the forest. let them take the reigns, i say. would be interesting at least.
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Fair enough. I wish voting did more. I guess to me, any positive change is good and if there's even the possibility, I feel like I'm obligated to try to make it happen.
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but i have to admit i do like your intellect and your ideals. i wish more people were like you. but i think robots will overthrow us before that happens, or we'll just global warming ourselves out of existence.
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Thanks for that. You're pretty fun to argue with too - definitely you have more interesting views than some people on here.