yea i torrented rosetta stone... didn't really get much from it tbh. i didn't get very far in it but yea
i also got pimsluer which basically just drills the same basic phrases in you... i make progress with that slowly but surely. but i really don't have the time to really 'immerse' myself
and i realize that there's more than one chinese language.. mandarin is the spoken language i'm working on.. but as for the symbols, they are used in more than just mandarin hence why i call them chinese
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