I'll respond to you, but honestly I'd rather hear how you feel about the compromise I suggested (that if the users and mods agreed to your proposal, we could start it off by enacting the harsher enforcement only in The Lounge, moving it to the music forums only if necessary).
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Originally Posted by tore
Guys, can we forget about Urban? Or at least discuss him in his own farewell thread or something.
Oriphiel, times have certainly been hard before. You mention the Boo Boo incident. The thing is, I had already made a similar suggestion to the one I've made in this thread by the time the Boo Boo episode happened. So what you're describing is not exactly a golden age. It was a time when the problems I've brought up already existed and now they've been allowed to mature for a bunch more years. It has not, on the whole, led to any kind of improvement. On the contrary. I see less of just about everything (contributing members, community participation, reviews, contests, compilations, etc) except inane bickering which seems to be going strong still.
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My point was that there have always been fights, and there always will be, as it's human nature. I was also pointing out that MB has gone through times much more hostile and strange than what it's going through now, and Boo Boo was just one example. Like I said, I just don't see the degradation that you're talking about. The threads from back then that were useful and good are still around, and we also have the good ones that occasionally pop up in the day to day, giving us the best of the past and present. I'd say we actually have more resources now then we did back then, and the only difference in terms of hostility is that the names of the handful of troublemakers have changed.
And I think that user participation is actually not that bad. We have plenty of people making songs in the "Bi-Weekly Song Off" (although I admit we could use more, and the thread is on a bit of a hiatus right now), people giving out awesome recs like candy (even a simple thread like Trollheart's "Love or Hate" racked up a huge amount of participation), a good variety of journals that are fun to read (whether you want to read about music, video games, comic books, life experiences, short stories, and more), a million survivor/war threads which actually don't get old as quickly as you'd think they would (mostly because the participants are awesome), and plenty more.
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I think had my suggestions been implemented back then, the Boo Boo incident might not have happened. Or it would have been much smaller in scale and just maybe he would've been around today. I was never really happy with the permban and the situation should not have been allowed to escalate the way it did. Possibly a better system could have prevented it. The same goes for other kinds of dramatic blowouts in the past.
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I don't think your proposal would have changed what happened. Boo Boo was a mod who couldn't take it when people disagreed with him, and the people that he banned weren't even saying anything that would have gone against your proposed regulations.
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I get why mods would be against it because what I suggest requires work and dedication to a new game plan. I have a harder time seeing why the average user would be against it. I don't think it would cramp your style as much as you fear it will. A little cramped, yes, but possibly you'd also reap the benefits.
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I can't speak for them, but i'm pretty sure the mods aren't against it because they don't want to work hard.