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Old 04-30-2015, 03:04 PM   #149 (permalink)
Soulflower
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Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
I'm actually quite shocked that you would say that Ki. Why do you think the issue is dumb? Black guys are getting killed, let them? Surely you're not that insensitive? "I'm all right Jack, keep your hands off my stack"?

He's being treated that way because he's belittling the very events that are taking place by shrugging and saying "**** happens". He might as well say, so young girls are getting kidnapped by Boca Harum (sp?) and sold into slavery: so what? **** happens!" It's a godawful attitude to have in my opinion and I don't think it's worthy of him.

Here I have to agree with Ki. You can't keep changing the goalposts, and you are a world class goalpost shifter. This is another example of that. First you say this



and then you backtrack by saying this

You simply can't have it both ways. If you make a mistake or are caught in a logical trap then you should hold your hands up and say, yes, I was wrong there. You can then go on to explain that what you meant was this, but you have to first admit that you were not clear on, or were too general in, your original post.

It's the same as you did with the "why are current artists not concerned about social issues" thread. When I pointed out some that were, you changed the criteria by saying you meant pop artists, but that was in no way decipherable or clear from your original post. It's just, you know, what you do and what you have become known for doing here: you seem to think we can all climb into your head and see what you're thinking, or that we should be able to know automatically what you mean when your meaning is not clear, or at least open to interpretation.

I'm also concerned by your use of the blunt phrase "You are wrong". Who are you to say anyone is wrong? Unless it's an absolute, like someone saying the sky is green, you can't and you should not assume that you are right and thy are wrong. You can say I don't agree, or I think you're wrong, but YOU ARE WRONG is perhaps the worst form of condescending arrogance that really, I'm sorry to say, populates most of your posts and most of your threads, so that in the end, people really know what you're going to write before your write it.

Finally, I have noticed, in all your threads, that you only ever give credit to, agree with or validate an opinion of someone who agrees with you or sides with you. I have never (ever) seen you say "that's a good point but I don't agree" or "You may have a case there" or (god forbid) "I never thought of it that way." All of which goes to create the impression (true or not) that you are arrogant, condescending, one-sided, blinkered and display a total refusal to entertain any opinion other than yours.

I know this does not contribute to the thread or answer your question, but honestly, my comments could refer or apply to any of your threads, and sadly (as I think you have a lot to give to a discussion if you didn't make it such a high-handed lecture, as you always seem to do) this makes the title of the thread more appropriate if it were to read: "Why do people never take Soulflower seriously?"

Food for thought? As if...



What I don't understand about you and most of the people on this site is your so quick to lecture me about the way "I present my opinions" but I never hear you or anyone else lecturing the posters who make some of the most racist disrespectful things on this board or when people are getting bullied some of you "high and mighty intellectuals" sit quietly on the side lines and say nothing

BUT

There is always something so wrong about the way I state my opinions or try to engage the site in discussions every time I make a post.

I know I can be opinionated but I have never bullied or made disrespectful personally attacks or racist remarks that I often see a lot of posters do on this site that the moderators oddly do nothing about

I frankly don't care whether anyone takes me seriously or not because I am not really here to be liked by the group clique here on this site. I am cool with a select few here and I am fine with that. I don't need everyone to kiss my ass like alot of ya'll do.


There have been multiple racist things said about this topic in two threads but you felt the need to lecture me on "why people dont take my opinions seriously?" because to you that is more important than people making racist immature posts about police brutality?

Really?


I really don't take this post seriously at all because you need to be lecturing all the racist trolls who trolls these minority threads, not someone who is trying to bring awareness to a problem that affects a certain group of people.
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