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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
Alright, I don't want to fan the flames here, but I want to make something clear. Urban, in your first post, you made it sound like you were being ordered to take recent actions, and said ominous things like this:
But when pressed for more details, you went on to post this:
I'm kind of confused. You made it sound like you were being ordered by the owners of the site to crack down on us, and yet the only involvement that the owners have in this whole situation is this:
Which is basically a "Yeah, sure, The Lounge can be kinda unruly. Feel free to do whatever you want." It wasn't a set of orders being thrown down by the angry owners, it was just Yac giving a sensible response when asked a question.
If i'm wrong about this whole thing, please correct me, but it seems like this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. The owners are as distant as they've ever been, and clearly couldn't care any less about what goes on around here. The real reason for all of this mess is this:
So the whole reason that this started is that a few users were complaining. But guess what? People will always complain about something. That's just what happens when you give people freedom of speech; people speak their minds, and feelings get hurt. Rock and Roll isn't going to destroy our children, and The Lounge isn't going to destroy us. You can ask us to clean up our act, and we will try our best to do so, but unless you turn us into robots, things are just going to revert back to normal in a week or two. It doesn't matter how many threads you close, you'll never take the off-topic banter out of the Lounge, which exists purely for that purpose.
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As I said to Soulflower, I was here when they took over this forum and I was aware of what they could have turned this forum into had it not been for the moderators and the members expressing that they wanted things here to stay as they are, and with Yac's backing and support we've been allowed to do that and I am well aware we're allowed to get away with far more than the rest of their forums.
Yac has never ever once told anybody how to moderate at all in all the time he's been here which is maybe 7 or 8 years now. So when he says it's time to do something and we need to think about the way things are in the Lounge, he doesn't need to spell out the consequences to me because I'm already well aware of them.