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Originally Posted by Frownland
I still don't understand why, man. If it's an astounding body of auditory beauty on it's own, why is not music? Why is birdsong the one exception? Because it has song in the title? I mean, appreciating it, appreciating it as a musical medium, and liking it...are they they same thing?
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Just because it's beautiful doesn't mean it's music, and vice versa.
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Originally Posted by Frownland
Windsong, telephonewiresong, speechsong, ambientnoisesong...are those music?
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What are those?
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Originally Posted by Frownland
Imagine if the tables were turned. You were the artist, not the listener. Someone says "fu ck no man, it's not even music!" Would that discredit your stance as music even though incredibly intelligent, sexy, and inspiring people such as myself are like "well I mean I guess it's music, but it sucks Beelzebob's anus, for a long time." Obviously a ridiculous example (even if it reminds me of 4'33"  ), but could still be theoretically applicable.
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I wouldn't care what other people think. And if I did, I'd have to address my self-esteem issues before I could move on with my life.
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Originally Posted by Frownland
But seriously, why should a listener be the one who decides whether something is music or not when they put no work into the piece? Sure, it might suck, but fuck, it's still some shite music to begin with. I don't go around saying a Kenny G solo saxophone album isn't music because nothing is happening, it doesn't interest me in the slightest, and makes absolute (and nonexistant) silence preferable (for a man who thrives on music), I'm still going to say that it's music.
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I said nothing about non-music sucking. I just said it's not music. Nothing personal. I, too, love the sound of water, for example. Often when I trip, I listen to music, but one time, when I went to the seaside, I put down my Walkman, walked out to the end of the empty pier, and said to myself, "Today, the sea is my music."
...of course, it was a metaphor. The sea isn't really music; I was drawing my attention to the beauty of the sea by comparing it to something it is not.