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Old 11-24-2014, 04:09 PM   #57 (permalink)
Soulflower
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You said that what makes an Icon to you was a person that is famous and then you went on to say that its silly to imply that none of the pop stars out today will be Icons without no reasoning.

Yes you did need to explain.


You never really explained your criteria in detail which was all I simply asked.


Kanye's significant albums: College Dropout, My Beautiful Dark Convoluted List of Adjectives, Yeezus.


How are these albums Iconic and how have they made a significant impact on music?



Musical impact: making popular the use of soul samples as well as the gritty industrial techno hip hop sound of Yeezus.



Artists have been sampling music before he was born. That is not a groundbreaking significant contribution to music.



Iconic moment: 'Imma let you finish'. Memeified, prominently used pop culture reference, even people who have never heard his music know Kanye's an arrogant *******.


But is this something that is so groundbreaking that it will be remembered 50 years from now?

I don't think it made a cultural impact and I also don't see how that relates to music.





Janet will never have to release another album because her legacy is stamped. She has made iconic albums and has iconic moments that will always been remembered and viewed as an influence. She is still relevant today among st the current popular acts.

I think you are not understanding the questions.



You still have not really explained any significant contributions he has made or groundbreaking things he has done related to his music.

Sampling is not innovative and was done before him and might I add done better.


An example of an Iconic album is Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation. That album broke cultural barriers with its social conscious message, themes, and creative music videos. It is a very influential album till this day all the way down to the look. There hasn't been a female pop star in the last 20 something years that has made an album as socially conscious sense. Madonna hasn't even made a political album as daring as RN.
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