Urban Hat€monger ?

I know all that, in fact I pretty much said the same thing.

What I'm saying is you can't just separate it as being one thing and say this was this and that was that. You have to take what was happening in the music scene at large. As I said Priest reinvented themselves in late 78/ early 79 and became the first metal act since punk to make any sort of a breakthrough, but they needer a newer fresher sound to do it. And with that they led the way for the NWOBHM.

It doesn't actually matter if they were a part of it or not, but they were caught up with it and were a causing factor in what happened to it which is why I keep saying it's not a black & white thing.

This is at the same time when European rock bands like Accept, Krokus & Trust were breaking out, you had American bands like Van Halen playing their first gigs in the UK as well as bands like Kiss & Alice Cooper playing their first UK gigs since the mid 70s. You also had 70s bands like Scorpions, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Hawkwind, Black Sabbath with new line ups in a lot of cases playing much more harder edged music then they had before. Plus you had punk bands who were bored of playing punk and in some cases went on to play in metal bands and/or started the whole glam metal thing in the early 80s.

You can't just take one thing and look at it as a solitary entity, you have to look at what was going on around it too.

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