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Originally Posted by Musicfanatic
Now, I may have said that there's no fastness to the songs, which is what some consider heavy metal. I was just putting out a point. I do, indeed, feel that they are the first metal band. But they are also a classic rock band more so to me...
This is one of the points I was trying to make; just because you cannot hear the metal in the song, which every song, except Nothing Else Matters, is as strongly metal than anything in the Unforgiven.
Did you stop thinking and just listen to the albums, or think about their structures and their differences? Taking any song from Kill 'Em All and compare them to the rest, there is just something rawer and a lot edgier, plus a lot faster in feel than the rest. No, not by miles and miles, but by feet or yards, meters, too, if you like.
So says the person whom didn't like the Black Album. Hey, it's a double edged sword here, a double edged demon sword.
Like I've said, and you've said about other albums past that one. The Black Album was metal. Even if you don't see it, it is. So was Black Sabbath. Not that you don't see that. But ...And Justice just doesn't have the fast pace that thrash contains. Listening to the first three and compare them to ...And Justice, it's night and day, really. Sure, there's still metal in there, everywhere, but the elements of thrash were waning. Not to say that it isn't thrash. I just kind of look at it as a less thrashy album. Heck, didn't I say I liked it over "Master" did I? But I consider Master as thrash, and that is because it is speedier. With every album they slowed down just a bit. To me, that is. I think it's thrash, but not true to the earlier ones.
Oh really? They said 'something like that' eh? Look, that's the same as saying that I read a review the other week where someone called the Black Album an awesome heavy metal album that will go down in history as the very best. It's all subjective. One second you could be thinking 'Gee, that's heavy metal' and it was a Kiss song, which I don't recall being heavy metal. Or saying, 'This is the heaviest band ever!' and it being Slipknot. Or thinking that Godzilla 2014 wasn't a real Godzilla movie, nor was '98. But some people don't agree.
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Who are you????????????? Seriously, it is like you are my doppelgänger or something.
Let's just look at everything you and I have said lol. It's quite interesting.
The black album as a heavy metal album: You think it is heavy metal, I think it is not.
While we clearly have dissenting opinons on this, we
BOTH agree Enter Sandman is a really really really overplaid song.
Also, we seem to be in (slight) agreement that there are better applications of the word heavy than using it to describe the black album for the most part.
Also also, we (somehow) agree Sad But True is the heaviest song from that album, though we, bizarrely, have differing definitions and therefore applications of the word heavy.
Favorite Metallica albums: We both agree Kill Em All is the best,
but really deviate after that.
I think Master is the 2nd best (possibly I think it is tied for the best with Kill Em All), you think Ride the Lightning is the 2nd best, and then even place And Justice above MoP...................you ****er. lol
On the subject of kill Em All, we agree it is their edgiest material as well.
And Justice being a thrash metal album: We have differing views about this..............I still refuse to yield that And Justice is in fact a thrash metal album, so I guess I will admit that the black album is 'mainstream heavy metal.'
Load: I think this album is a POS, you think it is one of your favorite metallica albums.
That being said, I love love love leove lvoelvo vleov lovoelve...."Ain't My Bitch"
We both seem to like Megadeth as well.
Black Sabbath is unquestionably a heavy metal band. I saw someone on another site refer to Black Sabbath as "death metal." I don't agree with calling Black Sabbath anything other than heavy metal, or first wave-*insert heavy metal genre here*.