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Ninetales · 02-09-2014, 02:08 PM

Here's a graph showing some dmen and how many shots against they are on the ice for per 60min this season (should mention its 5on5 only):

Basically I put some of the best guys in here and then added some others for contrast (Fowler/Johnson because they had the highest TOI on their respective teams, and Orpik because he made the olympics haha). I also didnt include Bouwmeester because he is just riding Pietrangelo's coattails.

So Karlsson is on the ice for about 55 shot against/60. League average is basically the same, but Karlsson plays against top competition so it's not that bad. You'll notice Weber has nearly 60 shots against/60. And looking at this just adds to my man crush on Campbell. He has the second lowest SA and plays on Florida. Wow.

Now this is all well and good and it probably looks like Karlsson isnt that great. Here's another graph (yay graphs!)

Now ok this one might require some explanation. So here we have how the percentage of shots they were on for/against (Corsi%). Obviously you want to be on for more shots because shots-->goals. Karlsson is at 54%. so he's been on the ice for 54% shots for and 46% shots against. Thats pretty good especially considering Ottawa not being that great a team. Which is where probably the biggest caveat comes in. Players on good teams will have higher numbers. Keith and Doughty and Chara have much better teammates than Karlsson and Subban. I was going to throw in another graph comparing how good these players are comparative to their team, but I didnt want to overkill this nerd sesh haha. Needless to say Ottawa goes from being a good team with Karlsson to being an average one without. The difference between Subban is even more hilarious and although he doesnt have impressive stats here, compared to how ****ty Montreal is hes amazing. I could do this stuff for the years Karlsson and Subban won but I think theyre pretty similar.

Once again tho Campbell is really great. Like Olympic team/Norris nomination great. And Weber is well.. overrated imo. He allows more shots than Karlsson and provides way less offense. But he has a reputation of being a really great and reputations tend to stick in hockey.

I mean I dont care about trophys really but I have no problem with Karlsson or Subban winning. They make everyone around them better and as much flak as they will always get for not being good defensively, they arent really that bad. And they make up for the higher shots against by getting it into the opponents end more. Keeping the puck is a good way to prevent goals. And im not sure why not playing as much PK minutes is such a huge knock on Karlsson. Its not his decision when he plays.

If its my choice for Norris this year id say Karlsson, Doughty, Campbell as nominations. Karlsson is really great and plays defense. I think thats what the Norris is all about.

Oh and can the Oilers please trade for Campbell good lord.

02-09-2014, 02:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	Here's a graph showing some dmen and how many shots against they are on the ice for per 60min this season (should mention its 5on5 only): Basically I put some of the best guys in here and then added some others for contrast (Fowler/Johnson because they had the highest TOI on their respective teams, and Orpik because he made the olympics haha). I also didnt include Bouwmeester because he is just riding Pietrangelo's coattails. So Karlsson is on the ice for about 55 shot against/60. League average is basically the same, but Karlsson plays against top competition so it's not that bad. You'll notice Weber has nearly 60 shots against/60. And looking at this just adds to my man crush on Campbell. He has the second lowest SA and plays on Florida. Wow. Now this is all well and good and it probably looks like Karlsson isnt that great. Here's another graph (yay graphs!) Now ok this one might require some explanation. So here we have how the percentage of shots they were on for/against (Corsi%). Obviously you want to be on for more shots because shots-->goals. Karlsson is at 54%. so he's been on the ice for 54% shots for and 46% shots against. Thats pretty good especially considering Ottawa not being that great a team. Which is where probably the biggest caveat comes in. Players on good teams will have higher numbers. Keith and Doughty and Chara have much better teammates than Karlsson and Subban. I was going to throw in another graph comparing how good these players are comparative to their team, but I didnt want to overkill this nerd sesh haha. Needless to say Ottawa goes from being a good team with Karlsson to being an average one without. The difference between Subban is even more hilarious and although he doesnt have impressive stats here, compared to how ****ty Montreal is hes amazing. I could do this stuff for the years Karlsson and Subban won but I think theyre pretty similar. Once again tho Campbell is really great. Like Olympic team/Norris nomination great. And Weber is well.. overrated imo. He allows more shots than Karlsson and provides way less offense. But he has a reputation of being a really great and reputations tend to stick in hockey. I mean I dont care about trophys really but I have no problem with Karlsson or Subban winning. They make everyone around them better and as much flak as they will always get for not being good defensively, they arent really that bad. And they make up for the higher shots against by getting it into the opponents end more. Keeping the puck is a good way to prevent goals. And im not sure why not playing as much PK minutes is such a huge knock on Karlsson. Its not his decision when he plays. If its my choice for Norris this year id say Karlsson, Doughty, Campbell as nominations. Karlsson is really great and plays defense. I think thats what the Norris is all about. Oh and can the Oilers please trade for Campbell good lord.