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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus
This proves that your knowledge of what happened here in Seattle in the late '80's/early '90's is an inch deep. He's very important in the Seattle rock scene from that era.
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When did I claim to be an authority on the Seattle scene? I know nothing of Seattle. Never been there. I just don't like the music. And if I was an authority on Seattle, I still wouldn't like the music. If you don't like something, you don't like it. It's a visceral reaction you have no control over.
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Cobain did what he did. No he wasn't the most proficient guitarist in this town but he was a quality songwriter. Bleach was a great album. I never need to listen to Nevermind again.
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I'm sure he did write a good song or two but I thought he was terribly overrated. If it hadn't been for MTV, no one would have cared about Nirvana.
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So, that also raises the other side of the question. If, as you say and for the question of argument, Cobain was a poor guitarist, does that mean Jerry Cantrell can't play? Kim Thayil?
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I don't know who they are so I can't comment. I like Grag Gihn (Black Flag) didn't play leads much but you knew he was good enough to. And I like his songs way more than Cobain's.
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But more to the point, does it always have to be about proficiency? Neil Young is technically a very weak guitarist but made some very great music IMO.
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Neil Young is a very good guitarist. He just doesn't get fancy. He's like Gihn in that regard.
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Yngwie Malmsteen could play standing on his head but I'd rather put a coarse wire brush bit in a high speed drill and torque out my ears than listen to a minute of his horrid music.
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Malmsteen is a show-off. That doesn't impress me. My overall favorite guitarist is Robert Fripp. THAT is a guitar player. Another is Fred Frith who doesn't play fancy but is incredibly creative as a guitarist but also plays superb violin, excellent bass (he's bassist for Naked City), piano, vibes, mando, you name it. Proficiency isn't everything but it counts for a lot.
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And Seattle wasn't all about grunge in those days, that's what David Geffin and Rolling Stone and those clowns turned it in to. Forced Entry headlined all the clubs here playing some of the greatest thrash the genre has ever known, all the big names were in awe of those guys, but they never made it out of Seattle. Same with My Sister's Machine.
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Well, I would certainly hope there's more scenes in Seattle than just grunge.
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Yeah, Hair Metal. I'm really really sorry you never got to hear Open Up and say "Ahh!" part 2. I'm sure everyone else mourns Warrant and Cinderella and Firehouse and Britny Fox as much as you do, but maybe it was just time to move on, ya think?
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I never considered hair to be metal. And no I don't miss it. Can't miss what you weren't involved with.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but maybe you might consider that everyone else is too.
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When did I say you can't have an opinion? I can't stand Lady Gaga or Rihanna but do you see me on the Gaga or Rihanna threads busting people's balls for listening to them? No, you don't. Why? Because I don't give a damn. But when you're on MY thread, you're going to get MY opinions and you may not like 'em.