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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
I think what she means is using "troll" to invalidate someone's response is different than saying they're trolling at a point in time.
Erica please tell me if I'm getting this wrong.
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You understood me perfectly, Hufflepuffster.
More specifically, I feel it helps the site greatly when moderators don't let members gang up like a lynch mob on another member and call him a troll to invalidate his responses because those members don't see the value in his opinions and want to squelch them.
Also, I feel the more polite that moderators can be while dealing with people whom they feel are violating a rule (whether trolling, or disrupting the community in some way), the better it is for the site. When moderators do feel someone is trolling or disruptive, I really applaud the times when they remain polite in their public responses to members and don't try to shame them.
I imagine that staying emotionally detached and rather impersonal as a moderator can be hard to do when frustrated and feeling criticized, but I think that such moderation best encourages people to share their opinions at MB.
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?
We do act on blatant name calling, as soon as someone does it they're either warned to tone it down or given an infraction.
The problem isn't that we're not acting on this, the problem is people are exploiting grey areas to get away with it.
Let's say for example you post something and I reply 'I don't think you know what you're talking about' then gone of to say why and then ended the post saying 'LOL Vegans' I've not actually done any namecalling, I've also gone on to say why I disagree with you in the proper way, some might say the post is hostile in nature but others might say I'm just giving my opinion and that the little thing at the end is a harmless joke.
We're not psychic we don't know if people are going to respond well or badly to a joke and to eliminate any doubt we'd have to ban the whole forum from doing it.
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The part in bold is great!
I'm concerned more about preventing outright name calling rather than implied putdowns, but I can see how the gray areas are difficult and next to impossible to moderate, yet can lead to escalating tension and ill feelings among people.
Do you and other moderators feel that the moderation team might benefit from having a clearer, agreed upon way of dealing with issues you face here, such as how to reduce tensions/drama?
For example, if I'm understanding Janszoon correctly, he doesn't feel that preventing people from calling a member a troll is something moderators should do, yet you yourself have deleted such posts, which I feel was a great example of moderation:
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?
The moderators aren't calling people trolls, not only that I seem to recall deleting posts from members that called yourself one as well.
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^ I feel that your deleting posts by members who were calling another member a troll was the perfect decision to try to deescalate the increasing tension. Thank you, Urban.