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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
I agree with the first part of your post about editing a person's post while making it known that a moderator edited it. Then, if they don't get the message, take further steps. We used to do that more than we do now, and I agree in that we should implement it more. Just so long as people don't accuse us of public shaming, like it was done in the past.
As for your second part, regarding punishment not being possible a while and only on the condition that someone reports it, that's pretty much taking wheels off our bike. If we can't independently verify whether someone is breaking the rules, and must rely on someone reporting it, then this place would be a war zone. Coming from someone who has been doing this for years, and not just here, I can categorically tell you that your idea in this respect would not work.
Of course, I could be misinterpreting what you were saying, so do feel free to clarify if applicable.
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Yay. After 30+ pages of discussion (and not counting older threads), a moderator is seriously considering an idea that addresses the basics. Thank you. And you're probably right about relying on reports not being smart. I still think you have to implement that kind of thing gradually, including public announcements so that there is as little surprise as possible, and I suggest you start with picture removal.
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Do you think people are elitist for not responding to your comments?
Do you know how many posts I make that go completely ignored? Lots. And I'm even part of the "elite mod group"... But when I wake up the next day, finally sober, I look back on those posts and realize they were just bad or uninteresting to people. I can't just sit there and blame everyone else because my posts weren't interesting enough to generate feedback.
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No, it's that people instead reply to esoteric points. Such as Kanye West's production over a subtle grenade I rolled about Rod Stewart. When very specific knowledge is required to get dialogue, forum activity suffers.
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Stop attacking me. You see how easy it is to make that claim? I feel insulted. Please follow the rules...
Obviously you can see the value in one single person not dictating the reality of the scenario, and I hope you understand from here on out that the mods are acting on an aggregate of information when things are not clear cut. Posting an eye-rolling smiley is not an attack, otherwise we'd have it removed. Just because you feel a certain way does not make it true. It's the kind of thing you report if you feel you're being attacked, and a team of individuals will determine if it holds weight. There is absolutely no way you can sustain a community with the kind of retribution you're advocating.
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I'm actually not big on calling out attacks on me, and I wouldn't normally point out an eye-roll. The problem was a lengthy rant about me. It probably didn't contain specific insults that would get a post removed, but its rant nature is about as bad and ought to be unwelcome on this site. People can indicate they dislike members, but discussion shouldn't center around such dislikes. It's the type of thing that could keep a lurker from posting.