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Originally Posted by tore
Yes, indeed. My point is really just that the perception of the moderators influences how people behave. If they are respected or even feared, their presence alone in a thread could discourage rule breaking, just like you probably wouldn't want to do anything illegal under the gaze of a police officer.
Having more respect for your authority as moderators may improve behaviour around here in general.
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The thing is, we have no problem with the ability to enforce the rules. It's that when we do, the complaints go from one arena to another. The issue is balancing this, not simply taking a hard line... not if we want a community that can feel free enough to discuss things comfortably, but also be personally responsible for not taking things too far. And I think this is not in the hands of solely the moderators, but the community in general, which you seem to be absolving any responsibility for.
But ultimately, this is beside the point. The original discussion presented here was about the community itself being prone to more drama than music. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that removing the source of drama is well within our abilities and should be well within our priorities. All I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be black and white, across the board. It just needs to be contextual, and we just need to balance decisions carefully, not haphazardly in an effort to become "feared", at the cost of expression.
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In my own example, I specifically used myself trolling Hitler as an example of an action that I have to take responsibility for. Trolling, not calling Hitler a troll. I assumed you were making an analogy that you felt would be relevant in pretty much the exact same way.
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When your analogy is placed against Sopsych trolling, it reinforces my point, which is why I was unsure what you were actually trying to say.