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Originally Posted by tore
Of course you're allowed to point them out! I do think that admitting the difficulties you have with moderating undermines your authority, but on the other hand it is better to talk about problems so that we can come up with solutions.
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Agreed, but the trump card is that moderators still have the authority whether or not it's undermined in some people's perspectives. And when we come up with solutions, we'll still have the authority to ensure those solutions are enforced. Sometimes letting people know that we're all humans with the same desires and limitations is better than making them think the authority is some unreasonable, unquestionable force outside the realm of collaboration. Especially when the mods here are very much members here who also have to live in the same environment.
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I don't think your analogy is that great in that it's not illegal to call someone shop lifter, but it is "illegal" to troll here. But regardless, using your analogy, if shouting "'shop lifter!" is going to cause others in the shop to attack that person violently and trigger a fight, then it would be better to simply send a message to the potentially omnipresent police force so they can sort it out quietly. There's less chance of innocent bystanders getting hurt or traumatized and justice still gets served.
In other words, people should report!
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It's not illegal to call someone out for trolling on these boards. It's "illegal" to troll. Just as it's not illegal to call out someone for shoplifting, but it's illegal to shoplift. I'm not sure why you didn't make that connection.
And regarding the other bit, while I would also recommend reporting, which most people do, in threads where the discussion actually involves the behavior, it isn't outrageous for people to let another person know what they think is going on, as it is relevant to the issue being discussed.