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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
I would agree with this. We shouldn't be arguing, but instead should be just handing out punishments for whatever crimes.
But the thread was meant to be a discussion between everyone. How will the mods, who are also members, make their positions known on the issue we're trying to solve, if we're not allowed to point them out?
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Of course you're allowed to point them out! I do think that admitting the difficulties you have with moderating undermines your authority, but on the other hand it is better to talk about problems so that we can come up with solutions.
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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
Regarding your troll thing... let me use my own analogy.
If a person walks into a store and steals an item, then someone yells "shop lifter!" and he gets caught, are they wrong for doing that? Are they socially stigmatizing the shop lifter? After all, they did shop lift. Like you said, it's down to the personal responsibility of those taking an action. Others should not be penalized for enforcing a rule by calling a goat a goat, rather than a hair 4-legged mammal with horns.
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I don't think your analogy is that great in that it's not illegal to call someone shop lifter, but it is "illegal" to troll here. But regardless, using your analogy, if shouting "'shop lifter!" is going to cause others in the shop to attack that person violently and trigger a fight, then it would be better to simply send a message to the potentially omnipresent police force so they can sort it out quietly. There's less chance of innocent bystanders getting hurt or traumatized and justice still gets served.
In other words, people should report!