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Old 08-17-2013, 04:03 PM   #377 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre View Post
Tore, until you can apply your principles in a practical manner, they're so much hot air when it comes to solving the immediate problems of MusicBanter, or indeed the immediate problems of setting up a new forum.

If this were a forum that needed not worry about such practical concerns, then I and others might be more willing to consider the more philosophical points you're raising about interpersonal interaction, but at present we don't have that luxury and your insistence on making the discussion about that is really making it seem like you're simply building an ivory tower. Perhaps it's time to take that discussion (Which is worthwhile, just perhaps not here, and perhaps not now) to a seperate, more hypothetical thread, while we discuss more immediate or practical-minded suggestions in here?
I think it has real relevance here and now. As I wrote, this thread is about drama and hostility, right? This thread has generated lots of hostility and drama, right?

What is the general reaction to it? That it's Sopsych's fault. But that doesn't explain the number of other threads that get derailed by bickering. The simple fact of the matter is that the common factor for the drama and hostility that goes on on these forums is not Sopsych. By looking at this particular situation from an objective point of view, we could perhaps learn something about how drama arises, what feeds it and how it can better be moderated. But any attempt at that fails because people are still only interested in blaming Sopsych for it all and acting defensively. Regardless of my attempts at discussing this, I feel my posts are simply being disregarded as white knighting the guy who blew smoke up my ass.

Please try to understand?

Watching this conflict from an analytical point of view, I've made some observations.
  • Newcomer with unpopular, somewhat uninformed and provocative opinions start discussing
  • Other members get irritated by him and many start acting on their anger. They escalate the conflict and some of them break forum rules.
  • Moderators join in the conflict on the side against newcomer.
  • Situation escalates to the point where moderator feels he has to moderate thread by moving posts to a separate thread.

This is just matter-of-factly.

Do we want MB to react like that to situations like this? Perhaps some do, but I don't and I believe I can think of practical ways to go about this in the future that would lead to less hostility and drama should the situation arise again in the future. And that's what this thread is about, right?
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