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Old 08-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Astronomer View Post
Well I'm from Australia so it totally baffles me that other countries don't have public healthcare, and that in other countries healthcare can even be unaffordable. To me, that is a really alien concept. A few years ago, I was in hospital for 4 weeks for a medical condition and was giving medication, tests, various medical treatments and I didn't pay a single cent.
Speaking of alien concepts; how does paying taxes for a service to make it socialized somehow make the same service free? The ****s only free if you don't pay taxes...

Now, in regards to the notion that healthcare pre-Obamacare was unafforable: no. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a clinic that has a sliding fee scale based on income. So, no.

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From my perspective as someone who has spent some time in the insurance industry and who is currently involved in a business startup here in the U.S., ObamaCare is going to be hell for any business with more than a handful of employees. Mandating healthcare and forcing businesses to provide it for full-time employees = fewer people getting hired and full-time employees getting their hours cut so that X business can avoid the mandate completely.

From what I can tell, we're already starting to see a reaction from all kinds of industries: it stands to reason that we'll be hearing more and more of people getting their hours cut at whatever medium or large business they happen to be working for. :/

Well, yeah. link - when the BLS shows you're getting 35 part time jobs for every one full time job...
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