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Old 07-23-2013, 08:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
Lord Larehip
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The problem with this is you're basing consciousness on memory, which is a biological function, which ceases to function when you die.
I am advancing an argument that says that does not happen. You have to counter that argument with one of your own. We can assert anything we want to but that doesn't make it philosophically sound.

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Amnesia doesn't erase a person's physical existence, it simply erases a persons reference to it. The existence was still there, and the person was conscious of it at the time, but that doesn't throw physics and biology out the window simply because you don't remember anything after you die...
First, I am not talking about real amnesia. I am positing a hypothetical amnesia--one that completely wipes your memory clean. I don't know that any such form of amnesia exists and I doubt it. I'm using it as a metaphor for death. If death wipes out all the memories of this life you are living, then how can you be conscious right now? If death occurs in a future moment, T1, and everything before it is wiped out then your consciousness can only begin accumulating memories at that point T1 or later but since you are dead at T1 then that can't happen and it is as though you never lived at all. You must have been unconscious your entire life. But since you know you are conscious now, then your future death will not eradicate consciousness. Somehow, some way, it survives.

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I think you're going too far into the philosophical when the simplest answers are right here on earth, and contradictory to your venture.
They are right in your own experience. That's what this argument is based on--your own experience. What's not part of anyone's experience is a big spook in the sky watching everything you do while sending down himself as his own son to deliver messages we don't give a s-hit about.

You could destroy the argument easily by proving there is no such thing as memory. But you're going to have a very difficult time of that. You're welcome to try.
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