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Originally Posted by tore
The idea that we have to worry about our political correctness to the point where we can't discuss laws and values for fear of being perceived as racist is completely ridiculous to me. Dubais is doing their best to attract westerners, yet we have no right to complain about how we are treated there? And the reason is that doing so is racist? Claiming that is ignorant.
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If we don't then why campaign to get the woman released
Surely if they've enforced their own law then it's just tough s
hit? (That's not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone either.)
But as far as how countries run themselves, it is not for you or I to say if the women in the Middle East are treated unfairly. That's for them to decide. Their customs, their culture, their business.
Saying that, Islam (and Sharia Law) isn't just a religion, it's an ideology. It covers everything from law, to banking, to politics. And it isn't just in practice in the Middle East either (44% Muslim where I live.) Sharia is there to be criticised.
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?
Yes and I find them just as annoying too and we're free to criticise them.
Under muslim law we wouldn't
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Correct.
Thousands rally in UK to demand end to anti-Islam speeches - thenews.com.pk
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Hazrat Peer Alauddin Siddiqui, who is a renowned Sufi scholar, told Geo News: “Thousands have come together to show peacefully to the western world that the production and promotion of a recent film insulting Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has caused hurt to Muslims all over the world. We are a peaceful community and we will do everything to protect peace and respect for all on equal basis. It’s not fair that some people insult Islam everyday and preach hatred through their actions and words but the lack of legislation encourages such elements. We want to tell our government that we welcome debate and constructive criticism of our religion but insults are unacceptable and inflammatory language is contributing to the rise of extremism amongst youth in western countries where youth mistakenly believe that the West hates Islam and Muslims.”
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They mention the film that came out in 2012 (I've seen a clip, it's absolutely awful but piss funny in places EDIT - found it -
http://youtu.be/1g983qD_d5M), fair enough I can see why you'd get pissed off at that if you're a soft arse, but banning it? Take the infamous cartoons in 2005 for example, how many people lost their lives worldwide because of the barbaric show of intolerance?
And by 'preaching hate every day', they're referring to the EDL. Why should the EDL not be allowed to demonstrate lol?
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
Considering that Marte is now released and that this thread seems to have descended into an argument about racism, sexism, misogyny and what seems to be a lot of name-calling and ill will, I would suggest it is now closed. It's served its purpose and I'm delighted Marte is free, but further discussion --- unless the title is changed and it becomes a basic thread about the above --- seems now pointless and counterproductive.
Just my suggestion to perhaps help calm things down.
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Why? People are disagreeing but it's not exactly out of hand.