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djchameleon · 07-22-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

No I am certainly not. I am trying to postulate an example of a government/ruling party/hierarchy that makes laws that are morally wrong, and ask why this is any different to laws which discriminate against women in hardline Islamist states? If you had heard in the late 1930s that it had become acceptable, even law, in Germany that jews could not own property, that gays had to wear special labels as did jews to identify themselves, and that these people could be hurt, insulted, killed even with impunity, woudl you have said well that's their country and their laws, so it's ok? There's no difference, other than the time one. It's still a force in power passing unfair, unjust, criminal laws against one sector of society, and this appears to be the way Sharia law is constructed; women seem to have very little if any say or importance in it. What about honour killings? Stonings? You're telling me these are acceptable laws for a country to be clinging to in the twenty-first century?

And don't go telling me I'm following my own moral compass: the vast majority of people see these as unjust laws, it's not only me. I can't understand, as I say, why you appear to be supporting, condoning and excusing them. I know I've said that before but you have avoided that question and I would like to know what your basis for that is, other than the very easy get-out "oh it's their country they know what they're doing" that you're pushing.

In other news: I'm delighted Marte is being released, and this argument seems to be going nowhere, but I'll be damned if I'll back down and be told I don't know what I'm talking about by someone I view as an apologist for Sharia law and hardline muslim practice.

You know this kind of mentality is why westerners are hated so much in the first place. They want to come into a country and force their morality and culture onto others because of their own personal feelings/morals. I might not agree with the way they run things in their country but I don't feel like I have to be some freedom fighter on my high horse and go into their country to destroy their culture over it.