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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens
Name me some English players who play great for their clubs but not for England?
Keane pointed this out after we got bummed by Germany.
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Why bother, it's probably easier to list those that have shown form comparatively to their club performances for an extended time....so, Ashley Cole. Oh, maybe Peter Crouch? I'm not even talking about playing great, just making a ten yard pass would be nice.
Keane is a gob****e and was a piss poor manager so I tend to take anything he says with a pinch of salt.
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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens
As said before, if everyone's at it then one player would easily be silenced. I read an article involving a lower league player:
The drugs do work and that's why players can't say no - Independent.ie
If it was happening at Millwall over 10 years ago, I think it's safe to assume things have moved on since, especially at bigger clubs.
Thing is though single players would be incriminating themselves and they would absolutely destroy their own reputation if they spilled the beans and they'd be pissing on their very own achievements and legacy, and they'd be ostracised by pretty much everyone, and what if it's not officially carried out by the club, could be a case of everyone including the club knows it goes on, but no one speaks openly about it to each other. So the only way you'd know it goes on is if you're in on it too.
You've really got to ask why Spain are destroying evidence. The Spanish national team, Barça and Madrid have all employed and admitted paying Fuentes for his services. His service is doping and performance enhancing drugs. He was paid for his services.
Maybe they were just paying him to come round and do some tiling in their bathrooms or perhaps a rewiring of the house. Because obviously they were going to employ someone to not actually do their job aren't they?
You've only got to look at the Italian league to see widespread corruption goes on. |
But sportsmen do come forward and give said evidence, as they are in Fuentes' case...Honestly I feel with all the egos and the sizes of the squad involved in football, if it went on at a whole club level then the beans would be spilled.
I'm not so sure players would be ostracised for it either tbh, these are people who can be proven racists, adulterers, homophobes and drug users but are still loved and still would be loved by sections of the public. If they came out and admitted it I hardly see the press tearing them apart.
I believe players do it, but I don't believe Spain or Barca won their titles because of doping.