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Old 07-10-2013, 04:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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To be honest, isn't it probably just as simple as that? Nationality and what people grew up in/with or were influenced by after the movement? My sister was about 11 in 78 and is vehement Punk is a British invention. I tend to think the culture and style and movement really developed over here, but given I wasn't around/don't pay all that much attention to genre history, I'm only going on opinion. The Ramones, while I don't care for them, were playing punk before Lydon joined the pistols so I can understand any argument for them being the first punk band. But as others have said, I don't think their influence was anywhere near that of the Pistols and asides from them I don't think there was too much going on in New York at the time. An American from that time or who knows that time (a lot better) will probably disagree with that. In either case I really don't see how it can go back before 74/75 though.
The Ramones presented a humorous side of punk which was quite distinct to the more aggressive and chaotic British model (not all the British bands were like that of course) For this reason anybody wanting to study the punk movement of this time, London and New York present a great contrast and a third contrast would probably be the Australian scene of this time as well.
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