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Originally Posted by William Zanzinger
It`s interesting to note that Mr Zimmerman is (as I write) in second place.
The poll is intended to reflect who was more influential, not the most popular band/artist.
Dylan changed popular music beyond all recognition-in 1965, he was recording " Tambourine Man", "Ballad of a Thin Man" and "Like a Rolling Stone"
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I think the influence of Dylan is more along the lines of Elvis Presley, where the music itself wasn't as big of a deal as the persona and image he presented.
Elvis was the white guy that made black music accessible to young Americans, simply because of the color of his skin. Elvis' music alone is nothing all that remarkable or influential to me, but he was damn influential in getting rock and roll to a white audience. Bob Dylan's legacy is in the message of his music and the influx of socio-political commentary in mainstream music that followed his lead. While his music did bleed into the sound of bands like the Beatles and the Byrds, the musical roots the Beatles extend far beyond Dylan's.
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The Beatles released "I Feel Fine" and "Ticket to Ride".
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I'm not sure why you're disparaging "I Feel Fine" and "Ticket to Ride". Sure, they're no "Tomorrow Never Knows" and "A Day in the Life", but throwing feedback in the first few seconds of a pop single in the early 60's is a pretty big deal. I seriously wonder how many people thought their records were mis-pressed when the suburbs heard that now famous feedback. And "Ticket to Ride" has a pretty unique, jagged rhythm with even a slight hint of drone in the background.
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Now I love the Beatles and to be fair, "Revolver" was just around the corner, but it should be noted that Lennon was already writing Dylan influenced material-(ie"I`m a Loser" and "You`ve got to hide your love away".
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Dylan influencing the Beatles to write a handful of songs like his is one thing. The Beatles (yes, among others) influencing Dylan to totally re-invent his sound and reshape his career by going electric is another.
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After "Norwegian Wood", Dylan wrote a savage parody called "Fourth Time Around" on Blonde on Blonde .It ends with the telling words-"I never asked for your crutch, now don`t ask for mine".
Who influenced whom?
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I've always felt "4th Time Around" was more of a playful parody rather than a scathing critique of the Beatles, despite the last line you mentioned. More along the lines of the Beach Boys part of "Back in the USSR."