Quote:
Originally Posted by Janszoon
Good grief, I feel like we're speaking two different languages here.
I never said I don't think crimes are economically motivated, I said I'm not sure if most are or not. Things like theft presumably are of course, but I don't really see what that has to with a conversation about homicide and gun control. So the real question becomes: Is murder an economically motivated crime? My answer to that is I don't know. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes economic status plays a role in an indirect way, but that's different from being the motivation for the crime.
Now as far as immigration goes, you can keep claiming that immigrants are more likely to commit crime but the data is on my side here. According to this article, for example, natural-born US citizens are five times more likely to end up in prison than immigrants. |
The article is as you say initially, but on closer focus it actually tells a different story. Firstly, a percentage of the so called American citizens are actually going to be the children of immigrants, who possibly due to their less than brilliant social environment are going to be the perpetrators of crime (the article actually mentions this) so I didn't need to read between the lines here. Secondly, the article is referring to those immigrants that have moved to the USA through legal channels hence they are going to be law-abidding citizens (again the article states this) these factors can more or less be applied to most countries that take in large numbers of immigrants.
I was actually referring to those immigrants that have bypassed the checks and jumped the queue, these are the suspect immigrants who are just as capable of committing crimes as locals, which is why in a lot of countries background checks are actually much higher than they were.
I could talk to you about gun laws which focuses more on the thread in question, but the whole concept of guns in society is completely alien to us in the UK.