lol fair enough mate.
And yes I am serious, you can't see the point I am making? You effectively said Jay is **** cos one person thinks he is therefore he is.
Subjectivity is pointless in a fair discussion. You've got the right to point it out but it doesn't make what you are saying universially accepted fact, which is what you have said.
You said it bro, if someone calls him terrible then he's terrible, pretty ****ing simple etc
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