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blastingas10 · 10-18-2012, 01:45 AM

Nobody said Anything about "leopard skin pillbox hat". And I don't think anyone claimed that Dylan could play electric guitar like young. All I ever said is that there are acoustic fingerpicking Dylan songs that are harder to play than some of youngs electric guitar solos.

If you think "ambulance blues" is better than "visions if Johanna", then that's fine, it doesn't make sense to me but whatever.

On the other hand, claiming that all the Dylan you've heard is "relentlessly cliche", well, that's quite a claim. Dylan is the master, according to young himself. Sure, nobody really sounds like Neil, but nobody sounds like Dylan either. Unless you're talking about his very early music. Bob was much more original, in my opinion. After all, he came first and was a big influence on young.

I'm not saying its absurd to say young is better, it's understandable. I have tons of respect for them both. To generalize my feelings of them both, I can agree Neil is the better guitar player. But at the same time, they're just different. I suppose that really loud, crashing style of Neil just stands out more to some. But I can appreciate the more subtle and reserved playing of Bob. And like I've mentioned, there are Dylan songs that are harder to play than some Neil solos. As far as songwriting goes, I think Neil was on Bobs level from time to time, bit overall Bob is quite a bit better. Some of Neil's songs just really bore me with mediocrity. And I also hold the rather controversial opinion that Dylan was the better singer. Youngs voice was monotonous at time, and rather weak. I think Dylan had a lot more power in his voice. All Neil had was that falsetto, which was great. However, Neil's voice has lasted a lot longer, no denying that.

To expound on that young quote I referenced:

In an extensive interview in TIME Magazine, in September 2005, interviewer JOSH TYRANGIEL asks Young who's the best musician he has ever seen and the standard for what he does?

YOUNG: "Bob Dylan, I'll never be Bob Dylan. He's the master. If I'd like to be anyone, it's him. And he's a great writer, true to his music and done what he feels is the right thing to do for years and years and years. He's great. He's the one I look to. I'm always interested in what he's doing now, or did last, or did a long time ago that I didn't find out about. The guy has written some of the greatest poetry and put it to music in a way that it touched me, and other people have done that, but not so consistently or as intensely. Like me, he waits around and keeps going, and he knows that he doesn't have the muse all the time, but he knows that it'll come back and it'll visit him and he'll have his moment."

10-18-2012, 01:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Nobody said Anything about "leopard skin pillbox hat". And I don't think anyone claimed that Dylan could play electric guitar like young. All I ever said is that there are acoustic fingerpicking Dylan songs that are harder to play than some of youngs electric guitar solos. If you think "ambulance blues" is better than "visions if Johanna", then that's fine, it doesn't make sense to me but whatever. On the other hand, claiming that all the Dylan you've heard is "relentlessly cliche", well, that's quite a claim. Dylan is the master, according to young himself. Sure, nobody really sounds like Neil, but nobody sounds like Dylan either. Unless you're talking about his very early music. Bob was much more original, in my opinion. After all, he came first and was a big influence on young. I'm not saying its absurd to say young is better, it's understandable. I have tons of respect for them both. To generalize my feelings of them both, I can agree Neil is the better guitar player. But at the same time, they're just different. I suppose that really loud, crashing style of Neil just stands out more to some. But I can appreciate the more subtle and reserved playing of Bob. And like I've mentioned, there are Dylan songs that are harder to play than some Neil solos. As far as songwriting goes, I think Neil was on Bobs level from time to time, bit overall Bob is quite a bit better. Some of Neil's songs just really bore me with mediocrity. And I also hold the rather controversial opinion that Dylan was the better singer. Youngs voice was monotonous at time, and rather weak. I think Dylan had a lot more power in his voice. All Neil had was that falsetto, which was great. However, Neil's voice has lasted a lot longer, no denying that. To expound on that young quote I referenced: In an extensive interview in TIME Magazine, in September 2005, interviewer JOSH TYRANGIEL asks Young who's the best musician he has ever seen and the standard for what he does? YOUNG: "Bob Dylan, I'll never be Bob Dylan. He's the master. If I'd like to be anyone, it's him. And he's a great writer, true to his music and done what he feels is the right thing to do for years and years and years. He's great. He's the one I look to. I'm always interested in what he's doing now, or did last, or did a long time ago that I didn't find out about. The guy has written some of the greatest poetry and put it to music in a way that it touched me, and other people have done that, but not so consistently or as intensely. Like me, he waits around and keeps going, and he knows that he doesn't have the muse all the time, but he knows that it'll come back and it'll visit him and he'll have his moment." Last edited by blastingas10; 10-18-2012 at 01:58 AM.